Been awhile since I was here but decided to go to your new version. Downloading it now but seems to take forever, e.g. stuck on 5.3/27.1 MB right now. Is this normal? Minutes have passed. :(
As sending this post the download reported: "Failed - Network error"
I will try later.
Oh, yes time is EST 8:45 AM
Ok, finally got the zip download ... now to determine if I really want to give up my 10.5 build. :o
Aloha Dave,
Thanks for following us to our new location :)
I double checked on the download and it is fine. You could try later, there are a number of issues that could take place between your computer and our hosting site. There are currently no issues on our hosting site at this moment.
The new Version 11 is much better than the old Version 10 but it may take some getting use to. The GUI is a bit different.
Did you use your old account or did you start a new one?
Installed new version of Innoscript on laptop ... opened previously created file to run script ... big time errors - VB 6 Runtime Folder does not exist.
Please tell me, using the attached .jpg files, how I find the proper location for the folder.
P.S. it appears that the only way to find my message and replies is use SEARCH for "error". How do I do it other than that, i.e. what if I forget the title?
P.P.S. Almost impossible to see the verification letters and difficult to understand lady's pronunciation, e.g. is it C or T, S or F?
Crap ... attachments - sure I put two different ones so will put the missing one here.
Ok, got the proper location of the runtime VB files ... so easy to forget how to find it but did. ::)
Ok more ... frustrating .. not Innoscript 11 as it is pretty easy to figure out even for an old man ... just getting it "turned off" when done ... use the X at top right ... it disappears ... then click icon again and it say it is "running" ... not in tasks running but found it in Application so STOP IT and then can open Innoscript again ... trying to figure out why a file can be ADDED but INNOSETUP can't find it ... always a new problem.
Don't think I ever get the Verification letters right the first time ... at least hearing them help ... well most of the time ;D
Innoscript 11 on my laptop .... use File>Exit ... go to open it again and get "is running" ... use ALT > CTRL>DEL and find it in PROCESSES (not application) ...end the process and then can run Innoscript again ... sorry about my error is use of words.
NEW PROBLEM ON LAPTOP
Oh, boy, something new happened. Made my script using Innoscript 11 on laptop. Here is the results. Then open InnoSetup and this is what I see. The script from Innoscript came out like the 2nd graphic. Then wen I go back to Innoscript this 3rd graphic show what the script looks like on opening the file. At this point I can make the script again and it, again, comes out just fine (3rd graphic). So it is a circle where I can't get Innosetup to read the file correctly and ditto for Innoscript when I open it again. Suggestion? Thank God I didn't install version 11 on my PC or I would be "up the creek without a paddle".
Any why does an error in verification case the ATTACH files apparently revert back to blank, i.e. "no file selected"?
Hell ... can't attach the 3 graphics....try try again and again ...once again letter wrong and now ATTACH says "no file choosen" >:(
Why can't I attach more that one file at a time? Says there are 2 or 3, not clear how many, and then error in letters and start attaching all over again ...FRUSTRATION TO SAY THE LEAST. so will reply 2 more time and see if I can get the 3 graphic available for you.
Try again for the bad innoscript script on loading
D SOUNDS LIKE Z ...
More questions:
1. I get this message when deleting a file and adding it back in, "This key is already associated with an element of this collections". But it still adds the file to the files.
2. Some FLAGS in the Add File are RED and others not. What does this mean?
3. If the Inno Script Output File is set to \script\ then the complied file (from Inno Setup) will be placed in \Script\Output/. Why then have an \folder\output\? If I set the Output file to the program file then the compiled file will go into \folder\output.
So far in trying to use Innoscript 11 I am have great difficulty and I am glad I still have 10.5 build 9 still operational on my PC. Other wise I would be "up the creek" again and maybe no way to get back.
Still More Question
What is the purpose of the FLAGS in ADD FILES? Some are RED and some are BLUE. I change all RED to BLUE by turning off the "ingnoreversion" and "nocompressio". No matter if all RED or all BLUE my .jpg files are not put in the script. I only have 3 file types, .jpg, .wav, and .txt. The latter two always seem to be put in the script. And sometime, one file has 'Parameter "DestDir" is empty'. I will get on the laptop and try to ATTACH the .iss file.
ok, attached is my ptj file on my laptop. you should be able to see the jpg files in FILES. But, jpg files don't appear for innosetup. try to attach that too and if fails will do another post.
been this (using version 11) for over 7 hours now and no further along that when I started. Now I may very worried that if my PC dies which has 10.5 build 9 (i thiink) I will lose my ability to make .exe files for installing. Do you still have 10.5 9 available? sure could use it about now.
davethomson,
It is sometimes hard to follow what you are attempting to do. The first thing to do is to look over the documentation for InnoScript 11 (a little different than earlier versions). It will have answers to many of the issues you are having.
Files in RED[/d]
These are files that are not found. Either you place the folder where they are located in the "Search Folders" area or remove them from the script by use of a "Template" or from your VBP file.
Flags in RED or Blue
There are two settings. Either there are flags associated with the file (Red) or there are none (Blue).
Output Folder
That is the way it is designed to work.
Pictures
I do not see anything in error in your pictures...
In the documentation there is basically a "Cheat Sheet" for InnoScript. It is the procedures that one should use when using InnoScript 11 on a new project in InnoScript 11 (Quick Start). If you follow those steps things should be clearer.
The basic procedure to generate an Inno Setup Script in InnoScript:
1. Install InnoScript in the Administrative Account. InnoScript must be run once from this account after installation for proper operation in a limited users account. Any License information update must also be done from the administrative account.
2. Install Inno Setup (InnoScript uses Inno Setup to compile your scripts).
3. Create a new InnoScript Project for your Visual Basic Project. File->New InnoScript Project
4. Fill in parameter screen for Inno Setup directives (can also be done at a later time. InnoScript will automatically fill in many of the slots after the first run if the slot is empty). For best results fill in this screen after you attempt to generate your first script for each project, then fill in the missing information.
5. Select your vbp/vbg/.net/PDW or other project file (Best results are generated when you use a vbg (group project) file that contains all the projects when your app uses ocx/dll/exe from other projects). Any exe/dll from other programming languages can be used also. Project Options->Settings->File Options
6. Select a name and location for the output .iss file (This will automatically be filled in after you choose your Project file type in step 5).
7. Choose the versioning types for your project and application. Project Options->Versioning
8. Create or select a template file (.tpl) to be added to your script (optional). Project Info->Templates
9. Add any additional files or folders that your application needs in order to operate properly. Project Info->Add Files and Project Info->Add Folders
10. Add any additional folders where files in your project can be found (Helps to speed up file searches). Project Info->Search Folders
11. Add any folder that you do not want InnoScript to search to locate files (Helps to speed up file searches). Project Info->Exclude Folders
12. Press Create Script to convert your project file and generate script.
13. Edit your script (.iss) with Inno Setup or other editor.
14. Compile your script with Inno Setup.
Attachments to the board are done one at a time... but you can attach multiple files.
hopefully this clarifies a few things.
I know it is hard to follow what I am saying ... I am so damn frustrated it is unbelievable. I don't know what to do about the ADD FILES that have a RED FLAG. I don't understand what you are say or not saying ... I know very little about your complex program and struggle to try to understand what to do. It is so easy for me using 10.5 build 9 but somehow when I use your new version on my old stuff the RED/BLUE pot up on ADD FILES and, again, I don't know or understand what to do.
I never, every use a template. And what do you mean by "Either you place the folder where they are located in the "Search Folders" area"? When I add the file ADD shows me the folder they are in, I select all of them and click on ADD. What could be more simpler but then why do I get RED FLAGS?
I think the RED FLAGS are the problem but don't have a clue how to correct them. All the added files denote the folder, "C:\Star Trek 2\ ... all the files. Yet, apparently InnoScript thinks some are not there, at least that is what I believe you are implying. I am, once again, going to attach the graphic that show the RED/BLUE FLAGS and you will note that the folder is identical in all show (at least that is what I think it shows - after 10 hours of fooling around with the new Innoscript I can't by 100% sure of what I see). so, what now?
My laptop is running Vista ...a poor OS but all I have there ... and can't uninstall any innoscript installed as not a 64-bit machine, at least that is what the laptop say when I try to uninstall Innoscript.
I am sorry but if I select the folder to add files from, select files, click on add and their flags come up RED on some and not on others I don't believe it is anything I am doing. I add from a folder so they should be available. Why some and not others. The new version is easy to use other than it can't tell when a file that is add is not in the folder it was added from. Makes so sense to me at all. Got to be a "trick" involved but haven't found it yet. so will wait and see what you have to say once you read the below post and look at the attached file that shows RED & BLUE FLAGS all from the same folder as indicated by the listing of each file.
all I need now is getting all adds to BLUE FLAGS. Maybe do all the .jpg, use InnoSetUp and copy and paste the "good" add files to a new file. Go back, delete the .jpg and repeat the above using my .wav file. Then repeat again using my .txt files. Now copy and paste all these to the InnoSetUp file when I open it and then BUILD. Cheating but if it works so be it.
Ok, Cheated ... copied and pasted into InnoSetup what works on my PC ... all this stuff ...if you compare these "Source: ..." you will see they are the same as the ones that come from InnoScript ... and InnoSetUp LIKES THESE FILES and produces the .exe that works. So, question: Why can't InnoScript 11 do the same? guess I will leave that alone now... only time I would have to change any of the .iss files is IF I add a new .wav, .jpg, or .txt file. Works for me :D
Source: C:\Star Trek 2 Programs\beginning.txt; DestDir: {app}; Flags: ignoreversion;
Source: C:\Star Trek 2 Programs\cloakingtraining.txt; DestDir: {app}; Flags: ignoreversion;
Source: C:\Star Trek 2 Programs\deathstartraining.txt; DestDir: {app}; Flags: ignoreversion;
Source: C:\Star Trek 2 Programs\dockingtraining.txt; DestDir: {app}; Flags: ignoreversion;
Source: C:\Star Trek 2 Programs\enemytraining.txt; DestDir: {app}; Flags: ignoreversion;
Source: C:\Star Trek 2 Programs\instructions.txt; DestDir: {app}; Flags: ignoreversion;
Source: C:\Star Trek 2 Programs\passwords.txt; DestDir: {app}; Flags: ignoreversion;
Source: C:\Star Trek 2 Programs\traininginstructions.txt; DestDir: {app}; Flags: ignoreversion;
Source: C:\Star Trek 2 Programs\alertsiren.WAV; DestDir: {app}; Flags: ignoreversion;
Source: C:\Star Trek 2 Programs\auto shut down in progress.wav; DestDir: {app}; Flags: ignoreversion;
Source: C:\Star Trek 2 Programs\beamenergize.wav; DestDir: {app}; Flags: ignoreversion;
Source: C:\Star Trek 2 Programs\bell1.wav; DestDir: {app}; Flags: ignoreversion;
Source: C:\Star Trek 2 Programs\chime.WAV; DestDir: {app}; Flags: ignoreversion;
Source: C:\Star Trek 2 Programs\clickloud.wav; DestDir: {app}; Flags: ignoreversion;
Source: C:\Star Trek 2 Programs\computer noises.wav; DestDir: {app}; Flags: ignoreversion;
Source: C:\Star Trek 2 Programs\computeraccessed.wav; DestDir: {app}; Flags: ignoreversion;
Source: C:\Star Trek 2 Programs\crowd cheering.wav; DestDir: {app}; Flags: ignoreversion;
Source: C:\Star Trek 2 Programs\error.wav; DestDir: {app}; Flags: ignoreversion;
Source: C:\Star Trek 2 Programs\explosion1.wav; DestDir: {app}; Flags: ignoreversion;
Source: C:\Star Trek 2 Programs\explosion7.wav; DestDir: {app}; Flags: ignoreversion;
Source: C:\Star Trek 2 Programs\explosion10.wav; DestDir: {app}; Flags: ignoreversion;
Source: C:\Star Trek 2 Programs\explosion12.wav; DestDir: {app}; Flags: ignoreversion;
Source: C:\Star Trek 2 Programs\Feelings.wav; DestDir: {app}; Flags: ignoreversion;
Source: C:\Star Trek 2 Programs\Hypnotic Ambiance.wav; DestDir: {app}; Flags: ignoreversion;
Source: C:\Star Trek 2 Programs\incomingmessage.wav; DestDir: {app}; Flags: ignoreversion;
Source: C:\Star Trek 2 Programs\ominous_music.wav; DestDir: {app}; Flags: ignoreversion;
Source: C:\Star Trek 2 Programs\photorpedolaunch3.wav; DestDir: {app}; Flags: ignoreversion;
Source: C:\Star Trek 2 Programs\ricochet.wav; DestDir: {app}; Flags: ignoreversion;
Source: C:\Star Trek 2 Programs\scream1.wav; DestDir: {app}; Flags: ignoreversion;
Source: C:\Star Trek 2 Programs\scream2.wav; DestDir: {app}; Flags: ignoreversion;
Source: C:\Star Trek 2 Programs\scream3.wav; DestDir: {app}; Flags: ignoreversion;
Source: C:\Star Trek 2 Programs\screem soft.wav; DestDir: {app}; Flags: ignoreversion;
Source: C:\Star Trek 2 Programs\shieldraise.wav; DestDir: {app}; Flags: ignoreversion;
Source: C:\Star Trek 2 Programs\starwars.wav; DestDir: {app}; Flags: ignoreversion;
Source: C:\Star Trek 2 Programs\tos.wav; DestDir: {app}; Flags: ignoreversion;
Source: C:\Star Trek 2 Programs\wind2.wav; DestDir: {app}; Flags: ignoreversion;
Source: C:\Star Trek 2 Programs\computer room.jpg; DestDir: {app}; Flags: ignoreversion;
Source: C:\Star Trek 2 Programs\computerroom.jpg; DestDir: {app}; Flags: ignoreversion;
Source: C:\Star Trek 2 Programs\ds9-big.jpg; DestDir: {app}; Flags: ignoreversion;
Source: C:\Star Trek 2 Programs\engineering small.jpg; DestDir: {app}; Flags: ignoreversion;
Source: C:\Star Trek 2 Programs\sbasebusy01.jpg; DestDir: {app}; Flags: ignoreversion;
Source: C:\Star Trek 2 Programs\space small.jpg; DestDir: {app}; Flags: ignoreversion;
Source: C:\Star Trek 2 Programs\space station.jpg; DestDir: {app}; Flags: ignoreversion;
Source: C:\Star Trek 2 Programs\space3 small.jpg; DestDir: {app}; Flags: ignoreversion;
Source: C:\Star Trek 2 Programs\space4 small.jpg; DestDir: {app}; Flags: ignoreversion;
Source: C:\Star Trek 2 Programs\space5 small.jpg; DestDir: {app}; Flags: ignoreversion;
Source: C:\Star Trek 2 Programs\star fleet command.jpg; DestDir: {app}; Flags: ignoreversion;
Source: C:\Star Trek 2 Programs\starbase.jpg; DestDir: {app}; Flags: ignoreversion;
Source: C:\Star Trek 2 Programs\Starbase173.jpg; DestDir: {app}; Flags: ignoreversion;
Source: C:\Star Trek 2 Programs\training.jpg; DestDir: {app}; Flags: ignoreversion;
Source: C:\Star Trek 2 Programs\Transporter_room.jpg; DestDir: {app}; Flags: ignoreversion;
Source: C:\Star Trek 2 Programs\trek-bike-star-space-station-science-fiction-308298.jpg; DestDir: {app}; Flags: ignoreversion;
Source: C:\Star Trek 2 Programs\waystation.jpg; DestDir: {app}; Flags: ignoreversion;
One thing... Why are you fixated on the Red/Blue flag state? Why do you believe something is wrong? That screen is as it should be. InnoScript has added the appropriate flags to the files you added and has indicated that flags exist on those files by making the button RED. The blue buttons have no flags associated with the files. If you would like to add/change/delete flags you click on the button and add/change/delete the flags that you want.
It is all done for you. Unless you know what you are doing you should not change the flag state. You are over-complicating the procedure changing things that may NEVER need to be changed. A simple rule, If you don't understand it DON'T CHANGE IT!. The documentation is the complete reference to things not quite understood until you can understand them.
You are having trouble with terminology. When I said to add the folder to "Search Folders" in no way referenced ANY file name. A folder is a folder and a file is something completely different. You can't add files where only folders are accepted.
BTW: Where did you get the idea that all flags buttons should be BLUE? It is definitely not in the documentation. When you change things are are already working you stand the risk of making it NOT work...
InnoScript does the same, you are just over complicating the process...
The simplest method is to follow the basic procedures. Then add/change/delete one thing at a time to see what the results will be until you get a hang of the operations. You have to follow the program the program cannot follow you... InnoScript is really simple if you don't complicate the process.
Doesn't make sense to add one file at a time but ... I will erase the current Innoscript and start over. I will ADD one file (of the 50+) at a time and see what happens.
Started a new file, i.e. erase old on on disk. Tried to add files. Added 17 .jpg files. All blue. Added 8 .txt files. All blue. Added 1 .wav file. Immediately said, "457 AddThisFile() This key is already associated with an element in this collection". Deleted this file and tried adding a different .wav. Same thing.
So, exited Innoscript (using X top right), erased the file that was saved (automatically SAVEs the file whether you want to or not which means if you make an error the error will be saved). Started Innoscript again. Cannot start, says, "...already running". So used ALT + CTRL + DEL and in PROCESSES select Innoscript and END PROCESS. Why would this be happening? I can't shut it down and then start up again. Why?
Ok, start a new project. No files have been added. Add 1 .wav file and immediately the FLAG is red. Why? I can add 17 .jpg files and 8 .txt file and all blue but trying to add just 1 .wav file (no other files have been added) and get a red flag. With no other information I have to assume that Innoscript doesn't like .wav files. This must be true as it makes no difference how many other files (not .wav) are have been added, none of n of them, .wav file cause red flag.
By the way, when I added the 25 blue flag files the list on at the bottom of the list doesn't show a flag. Why would this be happening? It appears as if the last file, when you have more files than will fit on the screen, scrolling down to the bottom of the file means the last one will not display a flag.
Next I saw that a new file could be set up importing another file. Tried this. When I use this option it only displays the InnoSetUp file. And if I select this file Innoscript says to SAVE it so I do with another name. Now it shows the added files that include all the .dll type files that are added by Innoscript when you have just your files and Create Script. But all these files have red flags. Go ahead and Create Script and no red lines in script file. So, start up InnoSetUP and built => ERROR. when Innosetup stops the 'BAD' file shows
DESTDIR: ''
whereas the ALL the file above it shows
DESTDIR: "(app)"
I have a video program that I use to made instructional videos for several programs I have also constructed using VB. I don't have it on my laptop but I can check with the company that makes the program to see if I can put it on my laptop without buying another copy. If I can and this Support Board can upload a MP4 file of 125,000 KB or so (probably small if time is under 5 minutes) then it would be simple for you to see what is going on. Let me know.
InnoScript can add multiple files at a time, the support board cannot... Why are you worried about the flag color??? Did you read about the flags in the manual? Did you check to see what flags are attached to the file? You are fixated on the wrong thing... Leave the flags and do not worry about the color until you get the hang of it. You will probably not need t bother with the flags anyway. FORGET ABOUT THEM...
As far as InnoScript not terminating... You are running on Vista, all bets are off.
The simple process... Add the files (don't worry about the color) then create the script... Don't complicate it.
Agree, Vista is bad.
Ok, using the "bad" Vista on my laptop here are (hopefully I can attach them) 5 screen captures setting up a new innoscript file using my visual basic file and the .jpg, .txt, and .wav files.
1. After adding all .jpg files, no red.
2. After adding all .txt files, no red.
3. After adding all .wav files, all .wav are red.
4. Script produced, looks fine.
5. InnoSetUp error
In the Script Produced and InnoSetUp the last .wav file doesn't have the correct DESTDIR: "app", rather it is DESTDIR: "". What could cause this?
Yes, .wav files are red because a flag "nocompression" should have been added to the file. Anytime flags are added by InnoScript or the user the button will turn red. Have you looked into the flags to see what is there? Unknown as to why the last file has no DestDir, but that can be easily changed in either InnoScript or Inno Setup. I will check by adding lots of files in the "Add Files" section. Where exactly (folder) do you want to deploy the wav/txt/jpg files?
Oh, carp! Didn't see the "MORE ATTACHMENTS" !!! Old man screwed up again. the first four graphics are NOW ATTACHED. board only allows 4 files at a time. Thankfully that is exactly what I want to upload now. These four precede the the one I upload before, i.e.
1. adding jpg files all blue
2. adding txt files all blue
3. adding way files all wav red
4. script produced
note on #4 that the last wav file doesn't have (app) whereas all the others do.
Am seriously thinking about having laptop upgraded to Windows 7 or 8 but hear 8 is buggy still.
Appreciate your help. Maybe you can figure out why the last file in the script doesn't have "(app)". I know I can change it when running InnoSetUp. I will go back to Innoscript and set all red .wav flags to "nocompression" and see what script comes out.
Back to laptop ... ran Innoscript loading in previous progject, i.e. with .jpg, .txt, .wav files. Shows all .wav file's flag red. click on a random red flag and this graphic show what the flag was set to, i.e. ignoreversion and nocompression both set.
odd ... made another new project, added all the .jpg, .txt, and .wav files (whose flags are red but "nocompression". Created the script and the .jpg files were not there.
Ran CREATE SCRIPT a 2nd and 3rd times (same file and ADD files) and now the .jpg file were included but the last .wav file had the dreaded DESTDIR "" rather than DESTDIR '(app"). So at least I now know what to look for and how to correct it when using InnoSetUp.
Maybe you can find out why the last file has this error. So, will keep InnoScript 11 on my laptop but and too scared to put in on my PC.
If it isn't broken don't fix it, i.e. keep using 10.5 build 9 until hell freezes over (like the southeast USA is doing yesterday and today) or my PC dies.
Thanks again for you help.
Why not place all those files in a folder then just deploy the folder in "Add Folders". That would end up with only one line in your .iss file. It would be a lot simpler also.
Never gave a folder a thought ... because I just didn't realize that I could do that! :o
A good idea and I will implement it as soon as possible. I have used the technique in other situations but never crossed my mind to do so here. Guess because I never had a problem before.
Let you know later how it goes. After using V11 on my laptop it does seem to "feel" better. I may switch over to it on my PC but, remember the old saying, "If it ain't broken don't fix it." So, at least I know I can easily use V11 which makes me very much less concerned. And another old says, "Hard to teach an old dog new tricks." But in my case that doesn't apply. :)
Thanks for you help and the "Freeware".
Glad you are moving forward. :)
If you haven't noticed already I have combined your old account with your new account and all your old post are now associated with your new account.
Yep, moving forward ... but slowly for an "old man" ;D
And thank for the combination ... keep up the great work on your products.